"duurtlang" (duurtlang)
08/05/2014 at 14:00 Filed to: duurtlang
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"duurtlang" (duurtlang)
08/05/2014 at 14:00 Filed to: duurtlang | 10
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After doing a post like this !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! and seeing Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig 's post about his !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! I thought I needed to post an update about my 2000 Peugeot 406 coupe as I brought it in for its inspection today. Especially due to the unreliable image of French (and Italian) vehicles.
Everything labelled with a * is done by a shop, everything labelled with a # done or outsourced by a friendly mechanic. No marker means I've done it myself.
10-2012:
Purchased car: 3000 (167k km)
11-2012
# Broken speedometer sensor which was already faulty when I bought the car: 100
2-2013
* Refilled A/C: 100
3-2013
# Tuneup. Filters, liquids, spark plugs: 165
# Car came equipped without Cruise. I had it installed: 225
4-2013
Wipers. Unsure, I believe 40
Installed center armrest, as the car didn't have one: 50
9-2013
# Broken rubber exhaust clip: 5
# 1 liter of oil: 10
# Yearly mandatory safety and emissions check: 35
10-2013
Headlight bulb. Unsure, probably 5
12-2013
* brake fluid 35 (195k km)
New battery (preventative) 75
3-2014
* Oil change, replaced 13 dipstick 100 (201k km)
8-2014
* Yearly inspection, oil change, AC recharge, high beam indicator on dash replaced to pass inspection: 350. (212k km)
Total: 1020 excluding 265 in upgrades.
Maintenance costs per year when outsourcing most of the work 510. Had I done this all myself it would've cost a mere fraction of this amount. I do have to admit I've left the winter tires/wheels out of the equation.
Total kilometers driven since purchase: 45k (28k miles). Actual broken parts during my ownership: one 5 exhaust mounting part, one 13 dipstick, one 4 dash bulb, one 5 headlight bulb. Yet French cars are hideously unreliable.
Alex B
> duurtlang
08/05/2014 at 14:08 |
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That's 14 years old already?
TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut
> duurtlang
08/05/2014 at 14:09 |
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I've always had a soft spot for the 406 range. Both the saloon and coupe are just so pretty.
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duurtlang
> Alex B
08/05/2014 at 14:10 |
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Introduced in 1997, based on a quite differently styled 1995 car sedan/wagon.
Dasupersprint - base trim is enough
> duurtlang
08/05/2014 at 14:12 |
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Beautiful car. When I have time and money for another car, I will look into importing a French car in Canada. (We can import anything as long as it's 15 years old or more). Knowing that it's not to unreliable helps. What engine is it?
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duurtlang
> Dasupersprint - base trim is enough
08/05/2014 at 14:14 |
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I've got the 2.0L 4, sadly. It's competent enough but I should've gotten the 3.0 V6.
Added bonus: besides being reliable they don't rust.
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Alex B
> duurtlang
08/05/2014 at 14:15 |
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It still looks quite modern. You European Opponaughts make me jealous. :-)
Klaus Schmoll
> duurtlang
08/05/2014 at 14:20 |
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Dude! Don't jinx it! We bought our cars at roughly the same time (mine is due for TάV inspection this month) and would I do a list like yours it would be just as exciting to read. Nothing-oil-nothing-oil-headlight bulb-nothing-wipers-oil-nothing.... I have to admit though that I put only about 20k kms on it.
Bluecold
> duurtlang
08/05/2014 at 14:26 |
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Future classic. The shape is just perfect
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Bluecold
> Alex B
08/05/2014 at 14:27 |
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http://www.marktplaats.nl/z/auto-s/406-c
Read it and weep. One euro is about 1.4 dollars. So here in the netherlands, you can buy one for about $3k.
(and then you pay about $800 a year in road tax)
twochevrons
> duurtlang
08/05/2014 at 14:41 |
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That was the same story with my Xantia. Aside from an alternator that expired the day after I bought the car, it gave me absolutely no trouble the rest of the time that I owned it. From my experience, and that of my friends, '90s Peugeots and Citroλns were the absolute opposite of the unreliable-French-car stereotype. Renaults, on the other hand...
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twochevrons
> duurtlang
08/05/2014 at 14:42 |
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That, in turn, was based on a quite differently styled 1993 hatchback (the Citroλn Xantia). IIRC, they shared the same platform.
My citroen won't start
> duurtlang
08/05/2014 at 14:47 |
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A truly beautiful car. I'm happy your french car is reliable, mine isn't.
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duurtlang
> twochevrons
08/05/2014 at 15:13 |
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You're right. They didn't share their suspension though. I wonder how awesome my coupe would've been with the hydropneumatic suspension, especially with the optional Activa system.
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duurtlang
> My citroen won't start
08/05/2014 at 15:14 |
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You've got a latest generation C5, judging from your picture? What's been wrong with it?
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My citroen won't start
> duurtlang
08/05/2014 at 15:29 |
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Yeah, the Hydractive suspension keeps acting up, wheel bearings went kaputt at 26k km, the drivers seat only goes up and down when it wants to haha.
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duurtlang
> Bluecold
08/05/2014 at 15:37 |
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It's amazing how cheap they are. I don't really get it. Everyone I speak to likes them, it's a future classic, they're reliable, nice to drive, parts are cheap and fuel consumption isn't excessive. So why the low price?
And $800 a year? Ha! I pay 1136 ($1500) a year. Partly due to the LPG conversion, but without that conversion it would've been 788 ($1050) a year. So yes, I pay twice as much for taxes as I pay in maintenance.
4age20vsilvertop
> twochevrons
08/05/2014 at 16:00 |
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Same with our '97 Break. Had done nearly 600k, when we traded it in.
Wacko
> duurtlang
08/05/2014 at 16:04 |
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don't rust over there maybe, but here in canada, every car rusts, we use road salts/calcium over here in quebec.
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duurtlang
> Wacko
08/05/2014 at 16:14 |
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We use salt here as well, although maybe not as much as you guys as winters are relatively benign here. I'm hunting for BMW E30 Tourings at the moment, and they all have rust like the one I pictured. All over. 90s Mercedes? 90s Ford and GM? Mk3 VW Golf? Rust buckets, all of them. My Peugeot has none what so ever. I'm sure it can rust, but its rust protection is at the very least better than average.
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Wacko
> duurtlang
08/05/2014 at 16:21 |
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that rust is what a 4-5 year old mazda looks like over here, seems fitting since I once heard mazda considered themselves the japanese bmw
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Wacko
> duurtlang
08/05/2014 at 16:24 |
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please tell me how and why did you have to change the dipstick??
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duurtlang
> Wacko
08/05/2014 at 16:37 |
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The plastic on top, the part you pull, became so brittle it crumbled at the edges. The little pieces that came off also fell down the dipstick shaft, or whatever it's called, so I had my oil changed prematurely and had the dipstick replaced.
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duurtlang
> Wacko
08/05/2014 at 16:39 |
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That's a 25 year old BMW though. Mazdas rust here as well, but you don't see that many Mazdas in the first place. At 4-5 years you don't really see rust on body panels here, at least I don't but I'm not a mechanic. The exception are Mercedes vans, they already rust in the brochure.